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>>guest: it is as much coincidence as governor romney talked about ohio. this is interesting --. >>neil: you had this interest in three or four years as president to go after chinese where the concentration in the last few months of trade sanctions? >>guest: why being so cynical, neil? when you look back what the president has done on trade, he has taken a more balanced approach. he has been for trade. he understands, also, the consequences and the implication of a trade conflict with china. look at the other side, manufacturing jobs in terms of democrat the of the recession have grown. when you look at governor romney's record on china, it is tough to take his words with any credibility. >>neil: all their stuff is made in chinese. >>guest: everything is made in china. >>neil: you are talking about companies that ship jobs overseas and you leave a big one out, that is glaring, right? >>guest: i am not sure i see it that way. the president, i think, takes a balanced approach when it comes to china. the challenge here is for governor romney to paint that the president isn't standin
>>guest: it is as much coincidence as governor romney talked about ohio. this is interesting --. >>neil: you had this interest in three or four years as president to go after chinese where the concentration in the last few months of trade sanctions? >>guest: why being so cynical, neil? when you look back what the president has done on trade, he has taken a more balanced approach. he has been for trade. he understands, also, the consequences and the implication of a trade...
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how exactly will romney counter the idea that he is awkward and not normal? >> mr. romney's team concluded the debates are about creating moments, the quick series of zingers he has memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. >> jon: they equipped him with zingers. >> and you know what? the best zingers are two ones you practice for two months. >> a priest and a rabbi walk into a bar. it is a bar for homosexuals. the priest and the rabbi fall in love and get married because of barack obama! zing! >> i will tell you this, people. i would not (bleep) barack obama's economy with the (bleep). zing! >> zing! >> the candidates are preparing for wednesday's debate we go to senior correspondent aasif mandvi. >> you are with the romney camp, how is he doing? >> he is prepping the best he can, jon, but you hate to see an uphill battle like this, this is the president, the greatest or for this, orator this country has seen since lincoln. >> like i mean, mitt romney, talk about brilliant two, harvard degrees, the guy has never even lost an argument, he is no slouch
how exactly will romney counter the idea that he is awkward and not normal? >> mr. romney's team concluded the debates are about creating moments, the quick series of zingers he has memorized and has been practicing on aides since august. >> jon: they equipped him with zingers. >> and you know what? the best zingers are two ones you practice for two months. >> a priest and a rabbi walk into a bar. it is a bar for homosexuals. the priest and the rabbi fall in love and get...
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but mitt romney's budget plan will hurt the middle class. raising taxes on the average family by up to $2000 dollars. while giving a tax break of $250,000 dollars to multi-millionaires. doesn't mitt romney understand, we can't rebuild america...by tearing down the middle class. priorities usa action is responsible for the content of this advertising. >>> right now, we continue to follow breaking news on news 4 midday. the fbi is investigating an early morning shooting that killed a border patrol agent and injured another in arizona. it happened near the u.s./mexico border. the wounded agent was air lifted to the hospital and is expected to survive. >>> president obama and mitt romney are preparing for their first debate. the president is in nevada. his rival in denver, where tomorrow's debate will take place. runni innin inning mates come p battleground states. paul ryan wrapped up an event in clinton, iowa. s american airlines customers are dealing with unhappy pilots. seats broke mid flight. >> the passenger seats came loose out of the flo
but mitt romney's budget plan will hurt the middle class. raising taxes on the average family by up to $2000 dollars. while giving a tax break of $250,000 dollars to multi-millionaires. doesn't mitt romney understand, we can't rebuild america...by tearing down the middle class. priorities usa action is responsible for the content of this advertising. >>> right now, we continue to follow breaking news on news 4 midday. the fbi is investigating an early morning shooting that killed a...
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neil: if you are mitt romney once again under his skin because he has skin and if you are mitt romney you want to -- those that the traditional things but i also think these things are decided often times on things you don't see whether it was al gore complaining or the makeup. [talking over each other] neil: too much credence in retrospect. sometimes the debate confirm a trend. rarely do they reverse it. election 60 was very tight. and analysts said that debate turned it for jfk. many polls show the race was dead even at that point but if you don't screw it up, it can keep a lead in place. that is where mitt romney hopes to score some points. he is not a fan of the way he has been vilified by this administration and the me and he wants to reintroduce himself. ronald reagan suffered the same fate. the media cast him as a reckless cowboy who was going to blow up the world. we are quite willing to change the other horse is worth changing too. dagen: what notes with the economy. the president's presentation for it. neil: simplicity wins out and if you want to know four years of this he i
neil: if you are mitt romney once again under his skin because he has skin and if you are mitt romney you want to -- those that the traditional things but i also think these things are decided often times on things you don't see whether it was al gore complaining or the makeup. [talking over each other] neil: too much credence in retrospect. sometimes the debate confirm a trend. rarely do they reverse it. election 60 was very tight. and analysts said that debate turned it for jfk. many polls...
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ck o romney: "it's time to stand up to the cheaters" vo: tough on china? not mitt romney. when a flood of chinese tires threatened a thousand american jobs... it was president obama who stood up to china and protected american workers. mitt romney attacked obama's decision... said standing up to china was "bad for the nation and our workers." how can mitt romney take on the cheaters... when he's taking their side? customer erin swenson bought from us online today. so, i'm happy. sales go up... i'm happy. it went out today... i'm happy. what if she's not home? (together) she won't be happy. use ups! she can get a text alert, reroute... even reschedule her package. it's ups my choice. are you happy? i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. i'm happy. happy. happy. happy. happy. (together) happy. i love logistics. when you take a closer look... ...at the best schools in the world... ...you see they all have something very interesting in common. they have teachers... ...with a deeper knowledge of their subjects. as a result, their students achieve at a higher level. let's d
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he has been going through mock debates and mitt romney has also been practicing. he arrived in colorado yesterday and told thousands of voters he thinks the debates will be something bigger than just the winner. >>> you've probably heard the warning that most americans could be in for a tax like come november. there is good news to report on that front. >> also ahead, customers of a d.c. food favorite paying a little bit more now. details on a food truck tax when we come back. too many americans are struggling to find work in today's economy. too many of those who are working are living paycheck to paycheck trying to make falling incomes meet rising prices for food and gas. more americans are living in poverty than when president obama took office and fifteen million more are on food stamps. president obama and i both care about poor and middle-class families. the difference is my policies will make things better for them. we shouldn't measure compassion by how many people are on welfare. we should measure compassion by how many people are able to get off welfare
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mitt romney in denver. it will make the way for the future of the counsel rye. >> these debates are an opportunity for each much us to describe the path way forward for americans. >> i am concerned about having a serious discussion about what to do to keep it growing. >> gretchen: the high-stakes debate on domestic policy kicks off 9:00 p.m. >> steve: the president is holed up with john kerry. he said debate prep and they are making him do his home work bohoo >> brian: he was being sarcastic. but is everyone saying that the debates don't matter . they have talked about each other. and the ones who say even the benghazi hasn't thwarted the bounce president obama has gotten. of course it matters and remember what happened when john kerry did so well against president obama? >> gretchen: this is why people will tune in tomorrow because we haven't seen them together on the same stage. it is ohio and nevada, and florida and virginia. but they are not on the same stage hopefully geth the same question and so you
mitt romney in denver. it will make the way for the future of the counsel rye. >> these debates are an opportunity for each much us to describe the path way forward for americans. >> i am concerned about having a serious discussion about what to do to keep it growing. >> gretchen: the high-stakes debate on domestic policy kicks off 9:00 p.m. >> steve: the president is holed up with john kerry. he said debate prep and they are making him do his home work bohoo >>...
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in the romney campaign. there hasn't been a lot of focus on what the president promised and where he fell short. i think certainly through the end of the debate season, there's going to be a huge focus on promises he made that he couldn't keep. whether it was immigration reform and his promise to tackle that right away. he didn't do it, never put a serious effort into it. his promise that health care would get more popular over time. in fact, it still remains a net unpopular with voters. and then also just the idea on the economy which we have heard a lot about that his policies would lower the unemployment rate below 8%. that didn't happen, it was a promise they made early on in the presidency and it's one no doubt you're going to hear a lot about tomorrow night. >> jim, is health care going to play heavy in these debates, do you think? is it something we're going to hear about? and how will mitt romney deal with it? he's had months and years you could argue to figure out his answer on it. how does he addre
in the romney campaign. there hasn't been a lot of focus on what the president promised and where he fell short. i think certainly through the end of the debate season, there's going to be a huge focus on promises he made that he couldn't keep. whether it was immigration reform and his promise to tackle that right away. he didn't do it, never put a serious effort into it. his promise that health care would get more popular over time. in fact, it still remains a net unpopular with voters. and...
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next president of the united states, governor mitt romney! >> last night romney who spent long hours preparing for tomorrow's debate said the stakes are greater than simply crowning a winner of the debate. >> people want to know who's going to win? who's going to score the punches and who's going to make the biggest difference and the arguments they make, and there's going to be all the scoring of winning and losing. you know, in my view, it's not so much winning and losing or even the people themselves, the president and myself. it's about something bigger than that. these debates are an opportunity for each of us to describe the pathway forward for america that we would choose. >> the president meanwhile spent most of the day yesterday preparing for the debate. at his nevada campaign headquarters. taking a break to deliver pizza to one of the local campaign offices. he then started working the phones to thank volunteers. >> that was very nice, you know. you know, although basically they're keeping me indoors all the time. it's a drag. they'
next president of the united states, governor mitt romney! >> last night romney who spent long hours preparing for tomorrow's debate said the stakes are greater than simply crowning a winner of the debate. >> people want to know who's going to win? who's going to score the punches and who's going to make the biggest difference and the arguments they make, and there's going to be all the scoring of winning and losing. you know, in my view, it's not so much winning and losing or even...
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cnnorc.com. 47 for mitt romney. that three-point advantage for the president is -- what is the key issue on wednesday night in this is about domestic issues. take a look at the economy numbers. about as close as you can get. one point between the candidates. that's why so much is on the line here. while the national polls are tight, the president has an advantage. >> that matters a lot. the swing states really matter. >> we can say it's really tight, huh, paul in. >> that's right. >>> we'll see you again in the next hour. first presidential debate is at 7:00 eastern on cnn on wednesday night. and on cnn.com. >>> in hong kong, rescuers are scouring the harbor this morning for possible survivors of a collision between two passenger ferries. more than 100 survivors were pulled from the water immediately after the crash. the impact was so strong, it felt like the boat smashed into a rock or a lighthouse one passenger said. cnn correspondent is on the phone with us. what can you tell us, ram i? >> hi there brianna. this
cnnorc.com. 47 for mitt romney. that three-point advantage for the president is -- what is the key issue on wednesday night in this is about domestic issues. take a look at the economy numbers. about as close as you can get. one point between the candidates. that's why so much is on the line here. while the national polls are tight, the president has an advantage. >> that matters a lot. the swing states really matter. >> we can say it's really tight, huh, paul in. >> that's...
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president obama and mitt romney hunker down for their high stakes debate in denver. >>> and bumpy ride. a 10-year-old philadelphia boy is arrested after swiping and a 10-year-old philadelphia boy is arrested after swiping and crashing a van. captions paid for by nbc-universal television >>> hello and good morning. i'm lynn berry. and today we begin with air scare. suspicion is swirling around american airlines after two flights in three days were returned to new york's jfk airport. the reason, passenger seats came loose on both planes. the first incident occurred on a flight from miami to boston. >> during flights, passenger seats came loose out of the floor. passengers are unable to sit in that seat. >> the federal aviation administration says seating in both plains had undergone maintenance. they have grounded eight 757s for inspection. >>> to politics where president obama and rival mitt romney will not be campaigning today, opting instead to prep for the first of the three debates that they will have starting tomorrow night in denver. republicans are hoping it will be a game change
president obama and mitt romney hunker down for their high stakes debate in denver. >>> and bumpy ride. a 10-year-old philadelphia boy is arrested after swiping and a 10-year-old philadelphia boy is arrested after swiping and crashing a van. captions paid for by nbc-universal television >>> hello and good morning. i'm lynn berry. and today we begin with air scare. suspicion is swirling around american airlines after two flights in three days were returned to new york's jfk...
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romney when asked specifics wednesday night. president obama may get tough questions about how the white house has handled the aftermath and the explanation of the libya killings. listen to senior campaign advisor david axelrod on "state of the union" with candy crowley. >> the president called it an act of terror the day after it happened but when you're the responsible party, when you're the administration, you have a responsibility to act on what you know and what the intelligence community believes. this is being thoroughly investigated. >> he's saying president obama as early as the morning after the attacks in benghazi identified the killings as an act of terror. in that rose garden speech that he's referring to, however, the president only mentions the word terror once, and it wasn't until the end of that speech. also, it comes after the president speaks in broad terms, mentioning 9/11 and the wars in iraq and afghanistan. you can decide for yourself if his one use of that word terror is directly defining what happened in
romney when asked specifics wednesday night. president obama may get tough questions about how the white house has handled the aftermath and the explanation of the libya killings. listen to senior campaign advisor david axelrod on "state of the union" with candy crowley. >> the president called it an act of terror the day after it happened but when you're the responsible party, when you're the administration, you have a responsibility to act on what you know and what the...
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adding on romney. romney is not my issue here. not only decide to support obama on this issue the last two weeks, what we see is a press that has decided that it will not tell the american people the truth. not only tell people oho they may or may not vote for but now telling people what truth they may know and what truth they may not know. >> what is the truth? look, we have covered this story responsibly here on the factor, all right? >> you have. >> but i only take it up to where the facts lie. and that's why i gave the time line. and the other thing is unfortunately the folks don't care about this story. they don't. the massive amount of people in america. not people who watch cable news and listen to talk radio but just the folks watching dancing with stars and nfl and world wrestling, they don't care about the libyan story. they don't care about the libyan ambassador unfortunately. it's hard to make them care. >> if you don't tell them, then how will they care? let me just say. this we had an incident where, you know, the da
adding on romney. romney is not my issue here. not only decide to support obama on this issue the last two weeks, what we see is a press that has decided that it will not tell the american people the truth. not only tell people oho they may or may not vote for but now telling people what truth they may know and what truth they may not know. >> what is the truth? look, we have covered this story responsibly here on the factor, all right? >> you have. >> but i only take it up to...
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governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> the fact is, they're becoming a more and more important part of the political scene. look at the primary debates, how they got the attention of the american people. you'll see more viewers at this first debate you have in history. >> greta: striking prediction from senator mccain, a candidate who's both debated both president obama and governor romney. will a record number of americans be watching wednesday? is governor christie right, will this turn the presidential race upside down in byron? >> mitt romney at the south carolina primary, newt gingrich cleaned his clock. helhelp headedthey were headed o florida. romney felt he had his back to the wall, and he beat gingrich in both debates in florida. that's the spirit romney needs. he needs to do that well. >> greta: will he, steve hayes? reticent on this libya thing, he backed away a little bit. >> yeah. i think the tone of the romney campaign, particularly over the last week, has been a softer tone. they haven't wa
governor romney, he's a good debater. i'm just okay. >> the fact is, they're becoming a more and more important part of the political scene. look at the primary debates, how they got the attention of the american people. you'll see more viewers at this first debate you have in history. >> greta: striking prediction from senator mccain, a candidate who's both debated both president obama and governor romney. will a record number of americans be watching wednesday? is governor...
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here's mitt romney trying to figure out the name of that thing that the americans call a dollar. i'm sorry i'm just a guy who cares an awful lot about my country you sir are a fool you know what that is my terror cells but i don't want to listen to feature stories on the on the liberal approach. to really sort of the. tough guys i am abby martin so just came out last week's media coverage of the un general assembly was a teensy bit skewed let me break it down for you netanyahu speech was welcomed as a full on media blitz every network made sure to cover the the man between them everything he had to say and what kind of coverage they don't manage our get well he pretty much got a laugh in the face because before he even spoke the new york post published this that the piece of. his speech was even cut off by c.n.n. interestingly right before he said that countries and religion should have no problems with each other sounds a little familiar i want to separate trip to new york the video also failed to report that i cannot actually met with jewish religious leaders to exchange well w
here's mitt romney trying to figure out the name of that thing that the americans call a dollar. i'm sorry i'm just a guy who cares an awful lot about my country you sir are a fool you know what that is my terror cells but i don't want to listen to feature stories on the on the liberal approach. to really sort of the. tough guys i am abby martin so just came out last week's media coverage of the un general assembly was a teensy bit skewed let me break it down for you netanyahu speech was...
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issue not simply scared a real quick tony i want to talk a little bit politically about this that mitt romney wrote an op ed that appearing yesterday as wall street journal he called for a new course in the middle east and he comes down on the pressure on president obama's foreign policy saying quote i'm in this upheaval our country seems to be at the mercy of events rather than shaping them we're not moving them in a direction that protects our people or our allies tony a last question is should this attack and the way it was handled be viewed as a failure by the obama administration fundamentally the belief has been within the administration folks are talking this you out where you were doing this what they left what the right calls appeasement what the left of outreach is not working by the fact that you know it's like trying to give big people a big hug on people but what i think what you're seeing here is a real problem by the fact that you cannot a piece or group you can try to bring a horse to water but not make it grow you cannot give people a democracy if they have no tradition or if
issue not simply scared a real quick tony i want to talk a little bit politically about this that mitt romney wrote an op ed that appearing yesterday as wall street journal he called for a new course in the middle east and he comes down on the pressure on president obama's foreign policy saying quote i'm in this upheaval our country seems to be at the mercy of events rather than shaping them we're not moving them in a direction that protects our people or our allies tony a last question is...
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but mitt romney is saying it is too little, too late. obviously the white house doesn't want this close to the election to see some sort of a security breach. that is why they are making clear that no classified information was taken here. >>neil: thank you, ed henry, from las vegas. >> now, five weeks ahead of the election you may want to hear this next story. i've been a superintendent for 30 some years at many different park service units across the united states. the only time i've ever had a break is when i was on maternity leave. i have retired from doing this one thing that i loved. now, i'm going to be able to have the time to explore something different. it's like another chapter. >>neil: thousands of lay off notices will set workers hands days out of the election. the white house telling the defense contractors to hold off on the pink slip warnings and any legal costs they incur will be covered. today we are learning that lockheed and another against firm are listening. now, what is the heck is going on? these are part of the p
but mitt romney is saying it is too little, too late. obviously the white house doesn't want this close to the election to see some sort of a security breach. that is why they are making clear that no classified information was taken here. >>neil: thank you, ed henry, from las vegas. >> now, five weeks ahead of the election you may want to hear this next story. i've been a superintendent for 30 some years at many different park service units across the united states. the only time...
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but governor romney is planning a new speech. the following two presidential debates will include that. megyn: meantime president barack obama is in henderson, nevada. some say the city of henderson is a microcosm of the economy we have seen over the past few years. yet the latest polls show the race in nevada is neck and neck and that is causing -- ed henry live in vegas. hey, ed. >> the president -- they are calling it debate camp in henderson. 20 miles from where i am right now it's an opulent resort known as lake las vegas that is symbol i of the boom and bust. that whole lake las vegas resort where the president is doing his debate prep. it's modeled after an italian village. it went bankrupt the last few years. it's now sort of coming back and the president is hoping that is a microcosm that he's pushing this recovery along slowly, not just mere in nevada but all along the country. it's interesting to hear john roberts about chris christie raising expectations for mitt romney. the president at a rally in vegas last night tr
but governor romney is planning a new speech. the following two presidential debates will include that. megyn: meantime president barack obama is in henderson, nevada. some say the city of henderson is a microcosm of the economy we have seen over the past few years. yet the latest polls show the race in nevada is neck and neck and that is causing -- ed henry live in vegas. hey, ed. >> the president -- they are calling it debate camp in henderson. 20 miles from where i am right now it's an...
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will he say obama bijan mitt romney you are a serial tax evader. -- romney you are a serial tax evader. we have someone like reagan the comes off with a good line and response. who is an hououtgoer huffing and sighing. it is a good part of being able to tell who the candidates are and reacting under pressure. which one looks more presidential in terms of the facts and information and so forth. >> george bush looking at his watch as one of my favorites. >> maybe we have all become attuned to this. i do not know if we're just more comfortable with media and those being personal habits. if you watch the opening of the debate, and john kennedy was asked the first question. the format was after the introduction by howard k. smith, the correspondents turned on swivel chairs to introduce themselves. the first question goes to john kennedy. he predicts he is supposed to go to the podium. he begins to answer. he leans over and touches him on the shoulder. he gets up and goes to the podium. it is absolutely and mentioned in any of the coverage of the debates. it was seen as he forgot to go to th
will he say obama bijan mitt romney you are a serial tax evader. -- romney you are a serial tax evader. we have someone like reagan the comes off with a good line and response. who is an hououtgoer huffing and sighing. it is a good part of being able to tell who the candidates are and reacting under pressure. which one looks more presidential in terms of the facts and information and so forth. >> george bush looking at his watch as one of my favorites. >> maybe we have all become...
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and who are of them lean toward governor romney. 41% of those persuadables romney laid out a better economic vision compared to 25% say the president have. is the president in danger of losing persuadables and those votes may tick date the election? >> look, you won't find this surprising but i don't think so. you know, sean is, got some wishful thinking here. first of all, there are, wisconsin is not tied. these races are not tied. the president has a lead in the battleground states. and irrespective of what one poll might --. gregg: not among independents is the point we were trying to make. >> gregg, mitt romney is not going to just be voted on by independents. i mean --. gregg: independents sometimes make-or-break a state or -- >> they may or, they may or may not but one poll on independents is not the final word on independents. gregg: generally they account for one in five voters that is a lot of voters. >> but, gregg, one cnn poll taken three weeks ago is not, is not going to be dispositive how the outcome of this election. gregg: that's why i put up the "gallup poll" to make sure it
and who are of them lean toward governor romney. 41% of those persuadables romney laid out a better economic vision compared to 25% say the president have. is the president in danger of losing persuadables and those votes may tick date the election? >> look, you won't find this surprising but i don't think so. you know, sean is, got some wishful thinking here. first of all, there are, wisconsin is not tied. these races are not tied. the president has a lead in the battleground states. and...
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romney and joe trippi joins me now. you're not going to contest my opinion, are you, joe, that the mainstream media is firmly behind a second obama term? you're not going to give me an argument, are you? >> i'm not going to argue with you about where the media is it on this. i think, look, if romney gasps the media is going to jump all over it. and you know, so, i think if he has a good performance, stuart, i do disagree. generally what happens in the very first debate, if the challenger succeeds, and part of the reason is, just being on the same stage with the president of the united states with such a huge audience, i mean, there is no filter between, during the debate. there's no filter between what romney is satisfying and what the american people are seeing, that generally, i worked for walter mondale in 1984, everybody believed he did very, very well in the first debate against reagan. it was in the succeeding debates where reagan came back and clearly won those debates. so the first one is really an opportunity f
romney and joe trippi joins me now. you're not going to contest my opinion, are you, joe, that the mainstream media is firmly behind a second obama term? you're not going to give me an argument, are you? >> i'm not going to argue with you about where the media is it on this. i think, look, if romney gasps the media is going to jump all over it. and you know, so, i think if he has a good performance, stuart, i do disagree. generally what happens in the very first debate, if the challenger...
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this was the romney theory going in. he needs to prove that he's a better choice for the next four years. >> people are still persuadable. 15% is a pretty big number. if you look at undecided voters in most polls it's around 6%. but rich is right. people will pay attention to this and they will look for something maybe to make them change their minds for people who aren't completely thrilled about their choice which actually i think in both parties it's most people. most people aren't that excited about their choice. but it's mostly the independent voters they will have to focus on. bill: you make the case this debate is really for them. the persuadables. >> it's not just for them. it's for those in certain states. it's great that we can talk about the race, what's happening nationally. but what matters is what's happening in battle ground states. and it looks like the race is moving in obama's direction. bill: i want to take you both back to an event in 2008 that a lot of folks have forgotten about. i believe this is ja
this was the romney theory going in. he needs to prove that he's a better choice for the next four years. >> people are still persuadable. 15% is a pretty big number. if you look at undecided voters in most polls it's around 6%. but rich is right. people will pay attention to this and they will look for something maybe to make them change their minds for people who aren't completely thrilled about their choice which actually i think in both parties it's most people. most people aren't...